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My yesterday post – Will cloud CAD inherit data interoperability problem? raised few interesting discussion about cloud data management in PDM/PLM implementations. How cloud CAD/PDM will make our life simpler? In my view, the most important part is to exclude files from data management chain. By doing that, new cloud based CAD systems are able to make data flow much easier. Existing check-in/out behavior will become redundant in cloud systems, cloud applications can save data instantaneously and redundantly and will allow you to restore to any point of changes. I also hope cloud CAD systems will have lock function in case you want to prevent somebody else from changing your design. The same mechanism will also provide a way to branch design options much easily by leveraging direct data access to all design data stored in the cloud databases. This is my dream scenario.

However, data interoperability of new CAD/PDM bundles seems to be a potential point of failure. And it is can slow down adoption of cloud CAD systems in environments that require integration with existing desktop CAD, PDM and PLM systems. The following Engineering.com article can give you some context to the problem -Dassault or Siemens PLM? The Contrasting Paths of Jaguar Land Rover and Volvo Cars. It speaks about challenges of large manufacturing companies related to usage of CATIA V6 / ENOVIA PDM. Here are few passages that caught my attention:

Volvo invested in Siemens PLM solution Teamcenter as a backbone, and kept CATIA V5. However, the automaker is reluctant to switch to CATIA V6 and the 3DEXPERIENCE/Enovia V6 platform. “We will not use the V6 version if it requires double PDM installations”, says VCC’s Andreas Westholm, IT Director – Geely Liaison. 

Volvo will not use CATIA V6 if it requires a second PDM implementationAll CATIA files are managed in Teamcenter. Since Volvo does not have any plans at this time to migrate to CATIA V6, they don’t need Dassault’s Enovia PDM as an intermediate step in the data management. 

”It is not possible to work effectively with two PDM systems”, asserts the Volvo IT-director. ”And we will not use CATIA V6 if it requires double PDM installations. However, we will bring in a new V5-V6 release that facilitates the import of V6 information”.

Potentially, any cloud CAD (with embedded PDM functionality) can create a situation similar to CATIA V6, which is a problem. Engineering and manufacturing companies have very slow process of new software adoption. So, to be successful, cloud CAD systems will have to co-exist and be used alongside with existing desktop CAD systems. What is even more important, new cloud CAD systems will have to be integrated with existing PLM products to become part of product development processes. How to prevent future cloud CAD systems from a problem described by Volvo?  How to avoid future “double PDM tax” on cloud CAD systems?

I think the answer is in a new cloud system architecture. It reminded me one of my old posts – Why PLM needs to learn Web APIs? A potential solution to the double PDM integration problem is future cloud CAD platforms, web APIs and data openness. Think about the way most of modern web platforms are consuming data. Seamless data streaming, avoiding local temp file storage and standard REST-based API is allowing us to create better integration between web systems. This is a way new cloud CAD solutions can be seamlessly integrated into existing PLM solutions and eliminate “double PDM tax”.

What is my conclusion? Future of cloud CAD/PDM bundles is promising and can provide many advantages to users – transparent data management, ease of revision management and collaboration. However, it is very important to think how new cloud solutions will be integrated with existing PLM platforms. Openness and web-based APIs are two most critical elements to support integration and adoption of new systems. Just my thoughts…

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Cloud and CAD are probably getting to the point where it starts become a real thing. Autodesk Fusion360, Onshape, SolidWork Industrial design. It is likely to absorb some PDM functionality to make collaboration, branching, revisions and other data management tasks easier. Cloud CAD means no files, so engineers have nothing to mess with… Life is getting more Googley if you read John McEleney Onshape blog.

However, here is the thing… What if (for some crazy reason, which is easy to imagine when you deal with engineers :) ), customer will decide to do a work with two cloud CAD systems? It is not unusual to see multiple desktop CAD systems in engineering organizations, so why cloud CAD will be any different.

In my yesterday blog –  Cloud CAD infrastructure is getting more PDM-ish, I draw the picture of cloud CAD/PDM bundle helping us to collaborate and manage revisions. Now how two cloud CAD systems will work together? I’ve been trying to bring my cloud imagination and thought about Google Docs and Office 365 services co-existence. Actually, it is not very nice story- I can easy get my files distributed between my Dropbox, Google Drive and OneDrive accounts. So, what if my parts will be stored on Google Drive and Assembly on Dropbox? Not sure I will like it…

Similar problem in PLM world created many debates and issues. Do you remember Dassault CATIA V6 story, which required ENOVIA backend to run it? It made few customers unhappy when they discovered that they need to run two PDM/PLM systems.  I can see some similarity with multiple CAD/PDM cloud bundles co-existence and interoperability.

What is my conclusion? How engineers will collaborate using multiple CAD cloud software? Cloud technology is great, but it looks like cannot magically resolve some old fundamental problems of multiple systems, collaboration and interoperability. I wish cloud CAD / PDM vendors will think about it upfront before customers will find themselves in the middle of messy CAD / import/export/migrate data scenarios. Just my thoughts…

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PDM was long time a step child for many CAD systems. To deal with CAD files, their relationships and dependencies including multiple revisions of document was complex and painful. So, many customers just gave up and stored files on shared drives. It was okay until the our life was disrupted by a new way to get work done – online, connected, collaborative.

The initial intent of collaborative cloud systems was to solve the problem of collaboration and data sharing. The idea to provide a value on top of existing CAD desktop file systems was interested. So, specialized cloud CAD file sharing and collaboration systems got focus and attention.

At the same time, CAD vendors got to think about longer term solutions. CATIA was one of the first systems that announced the disconnect from a traditional file systems. I posted about that few years ago – The future of CAD without files.

These days, the race towards cloud CAD is accelerating development of data management and CAD collaboration technologies for the cloud. Few weeks ago, I shared some of my thoughts about importance of PDM technologies for cloud CAD. Cloud CAD vendors are clear about their intent to make PDM part of their core product technology.

My attention caught Autodesk Fusion360 article – Fusion System Architecture Changes Coming in the Next Release – Why and What. Read it, because it contains some very interesting pieces of information about how files are going to disappear into future cloud infrastructure. Here is the passage I captured:

With the coming release of Fusion, we will be introducing significant changes to Fusion Cloud Service architecture that lays a strong foundation on which we can build an environment that is rich in WIP DM. As part of this change, we are introducing the Autodesk Work In Progress Cloud Service which is designed to model and manage complex relationships that are associated with a design. The service is highly scalable, highly available and optimized for performance. Another important change in the February release is significant improvements to the Fusion Object Storage Service. Taken together, these changes will result in immediate benefits in the way of performance gains and high reliability in the Fusion upload and download data pipeline, and allow the Fusion team to deliver rich DM workflows in subsequent releases.

Another article from Fusion360 blog brings an excellent explanation what these date services mean for end user. These are functions that belonging to PDM system in a traditional file based CAD / PDM setup.

…it solves so many common design problems that we’ve heard from the community, both in Fusion 360 and other programs, and improves workflows for both teams and single designers. Branching and merging lets you easily:Work in parallel with other members of your team. Explore changes or alternatives to a project and keep changes that make sense while leaving behind changes that don’t. Understand how your project evolved over time and what decisions were made (and why). Restore or reuse any design(s) in your project from any point in your project. Use any point in your project as a starting point for a different project.

What is my conclusion? It is hard to bring a value of cloud design collaboration without re-thinking the way CAD-PDM bundle is operating. For new type of cloud CAD systems it means to embed core PDM collaborative function and make it part of CAD system. It sounds like a very exciting time- many collaboration and data management problems are going to be solved by that. However, here is a question. What will happen when two cloud CAD systems will have to collaborate together? Looks like a topic for another blog. Just my thoughts…

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Carl Bass and Jon Hirschtick are in agreement about future of CAD

February 6, 2015

Cloud computing is changing a world around us. CAD and engineering applications are not exception. It has been already five years since SolidWorks team at SolidWorks World 2010 announced about developing of CAD and mobile applications. I found Cadalyst articles – SolidWorks World 2010: Clouds, Macs, Movie Making, and More which speaks about capability of cloud […]

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Dropbox can quietly become ready to manage CAD files

January 29, 2015

Cloud file sharing and collaboration tools are booming. To store and share files on one of the cloud file sharing tools like Dropbox, Google Drive, Apple iCloud is part of everyday workflows. The situation is different for engineers working with CAD tools. You can store CAD files in your Dropbox. However, because of cross references […]

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Cloud PDM: stop controlling data and check shadow IT practices

January 20, 2015

An interest of customers in cloud PDM solution is growing. I guess there are multiple factors here – awareness about cloud efficiency and transparency, less concern about cloud security and improved speed and stability of internet connections. If you are not following my blog, you can catch up on my older blog articles about cloud PDM […]

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Will search replace engineer’s brain in the future?

January 16, 2015

Computers are changing the way we work. It is probably too broad statement. But if I think about the fact today is Friday afternoon, it should be fine . I want to take a bit futuristic perspective today. Google, internet and computing are good reason why our everyday habits today are different from what we […]

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Future CAD won’t require PDM

January 13, 2015

Let’s be honest. Engineers hate data management. This is something that stands between their engineering creativity and formal configuration control. Check-in/check-out are two most painful functions for CAD users when it comes together with PDM. I recall my very old blog from 2011 speaks about the notion of “invisible PDM”. Navigate your browsers to PDM. […]

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Why today’s CAD & PLM tools won’t become future platforms?

January 12, 2015

PLM business and software vendors are transforming. Manufacturing companies are looking for new type of solutions that can give a faster ROI as well as become a better place for engineering and manufacturing innovation. The dissatisfaction of customers about slow ROI and low value proposition is growing. Back in 2012 I was listening to Boeing […]

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What stops manufacturing from entering into DaaS bright future?

January 7, 2015

There are lot of changes in manufacturing eco-system these days. You probably heard about many of them. Changes are coming as a result of many factors – physical production environment, IP ownership, cloud IT infrastructure, connected products, changes in demand model and mass customization. The last one is interesting. The time when manufacturing was presented […]

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