How different is DS 3DEXPERIENCE cloud?

How different is DS 3DEXPERIENCE cloud?

Recent CIMdata cloud PLM research brings attention to PLM cloud circa 2017 and trying to figure out reasons why manufacturing companies are not running fast to adopt cloud PLM products from established PLM vendors. Despite being discussed many times in the past few years, cloud PLM technologies keep driving controversy among PLM vendors. For some of PLM vendors, cloud is just a delivery mechanism that can eliminate IT complexity and allows to host PLM servers elsewhere by using variety of cloud infrastructure providers. A second group of vendors recognizes cloud technology as an enabler to make PLM available to everyone and improve collaboration between OEMs, contractors and suppliers.

I’ve made PLM cloud service comparison almost a year ago. Read here to refresh your memory. Not all PLM clouds are the same and to understand what is the difference is important before you take a decision to adopt specific product or service.

My attention was caught by recent CIMdata article – Dassault Systèmes’ Cloud Strategy: An interview with Vincent Frerebeau & Garth Coleman. Read the article and draw your opinion. I want to highlight two passages from the article. The first speak about DS public cloud development:

Dassault Systèmes has placed the cloud at the heart of our business experience strategy. The cloud is the foundation for next-generation applications and business processes on the 3DEXPERIENCE platform. The platform is designed and optimized for cloud and mobility usage, connecting people, data, and resources. Since the launch of our Public Cloud portfolios in 2014, we have continuously expanded our product coverage. With the latest R2017x release in December 2016, more than 87% of our design, engineering, and governance portfolio is available as Software as a Service (SaaS) on our multi-tenant public cloud offering.

The second one speak about differentiation of DS cloud solution.

We have made significant investments in cloud operations, providing much more than a simple installation of an on-premises solution into a cloud hosting provider. As part of the SaaS subscription, we perform solution provisioning, licensing, and maintenance, and full monitoring and management of the worldwide network of multi-tenant data centers to ensure maximum performance and protection from emerging security threats.

It is interesting how the following passage is creating distance between “simple hosting installation” and multi-tenant data centers. In my view, it provides clear acknowledgement to cloud architecture and requirements to build global cloud solution. However, the article gives very little product and technical details about how DS is doing it and how 87% of DS product portfolio can be provisioned and used in the network of public data centers.

I checked the link with Enovia V6 cloud videos from the article. Here is few videos:

The videos speak about 3DEXPERIENCE, CATIA and ENOVIA V6 products, deployment, multi-CAD data management, multiple locations, formal processes and many other things usually typical for PLM deployment. Videos are highlighting the advantages of cloud PLM solutions from IT standpoint and cloud based licensing. However, I didn’t find  specific information related to Enovia cloud deployment in multi-tenant data center environment.

What is my conclusion? The devil is in details and cloud devil is very much invisible from user standpoint. According to what I’ve seen in the video, DS products are deployed and running in cloud environment. DS is managing data centers and deploying existing solutions in these data centers, which is by itself very encouraging to see. My hunch, these products are probably tuned for cloud deployment, but at the same time, seems to be regular products. Questions such as difference in customization, administration and integrations are not covered and this is one of the most interesting aspects of cloud deployment that can differentiate between existing product with multiple deployment options and native cloud solutions. Just my thoughts…

Best, Oleg

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Disclaimer: I’m co-founder and CEO of openBoM developing cloud based bill of materials and inventory management tool for manufacturing companies, hardware startups and supply chain. My opinion can be unintentionally biased


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  • Hi Oleg,

    Thanks for the shout out for the interview. During the interviewing process I coined a new phrase that applies to something you said above: “buzzword shaming”. What I mean by that is criticizing the chosen cloud model of a competitor, e.g., hosting existing instances of existing solutions. While it may not be an elegant solution, to me what matters is if customers get value out of it.

    One of the interesting questions I added to the survey was to test the importance of buzzwords and phrases to the end user respondents. Thankfully, most of them saw through the “pure cloud” and “true cloud” arguments and are focusing on the words that matter, like IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS.

    Stan Przybylinski
    VP of Research
    CIMdata, Inc.
    Twitter, Skype: smprezbo

  • scubagarth

    Hi Oleg, good insight into the interview. To be clear, the interview was intended to “whet the appetite” — I agree the devil is in the details and we will be proving more of those soon, as part of the CIMData research project. In addition to the interview you mention, we plan to produce an eBook and a webinar over the coming weeks, with much more coming later this year. The roles available on cloud are the SAME as the ones on premise, and for anyone interested, the full set roles available on cloud can be found on our website here:

  • beyondplm

    Hi Garth, thanks for sharing link! look forward to see the webinar and e-Book when it will be available. Are there any features in DS 3DEXPERIENCE on cloud that are not available on premise? Best, Oleg

  • beyondplm

    Stan, thanks for comment! Buzzword shaming is nice. I agree. full, true and other qualifiers are not helpful, What is important is functionality that available and value that product can bring to customer. However, I expect one thing to be more important in the future – cost. As PLM vendors will be moving from selling software to services, cost of providing services will play a bigger role. And so the ability to compete. I will share more thoughts in a separate blog. Best, Oleg