Guest Blog #1

Guest Blog #1

Dear Readers,

This is a beginning of guest blogging on Beyond PLM.

I welcome everyone to share your thoughts about engineering and manufacturing software, CAD, PDM, PLM, ERP and technologies on my blog! I look forward to great discussions.

Best, Oleg

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Disclaimer: I’m co-founder and CEO of OpenBOM developing cloud based bill of materials and inventory management tool for manufacturing companies, hardware startups and supply chain. My opinion can be unintentionally biased.

 

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  • Michael Wendenburg

    Hi Oleg, I sent you an article on Blockchain to be posted as a guest blog. Seems that it is not activated yet. Let me know when you start seriously with this innovative project.
    Regards, Michael

  • Beau Walsh

    Hello Oleg,
    Given your expertise, I have a question about Dassault Systemes’ 3DEXPERIENCE platform. So, it has been the first industry attempt at “Beyond PLM” (ironically how I stumbled upon your blog). As you probably well know, it is an impressive culmination of their product portfolio in a centralized software; including V6 of, Catia, Simulia, Delmia, and other collaborative apps.

    Do you think others within the PLM industry, Siemens or Autodesk for example, will follow this strategy? And more generally, do you think this idea is the future of PLM? If so, how soon should competition come along?

  • beyondplm

    Michael, I’ve got it. Thank you! Takes a bit time on my side. I hope will come to this later coming week. Apologizing about the delay. Best, Oleg

  • beyondplm

    Beau, Oh yeah :)… Beyond PLM is a coincidence of course. Thanks for your question! I can see multiple aspects of DS strategy. I think, Siemens clearly following some of them. Autodesk might be not- they are very different in software, services and user base. Siemens portfolio is centralized around Teamcenter. PTC’s is around Windchill / Creo. It is more/less the same ideas of centralization with some difference in implementation. Do you see something specific in 3DEXEPRIENCE that you don’t see in Siemens portfolio?

  • Beau Walsh

    Thank you for the reply!
    I think DS has a greater offering, not to say that the 3DX platform isn’t without caveats – especially given the reliance on Enovia PDM and some IT issues with installation, but Siemens is being competitive with the acquisitions of Mindsphere and Mentor Graphics.

    Where I think DS has a strong advantage is against NX. Catia in 3DX for example, has “natural sketch” for creative modeling and “dymola” for modelica modeling; and 3DX as a whole includes several more apps with greater tools for simulation, manufacturing, and rendering.

    Without getting too technical, I think NX lacks support and a yearly release schedule. And although the 3DX platform costs more with all of the apps and licenses, it is far more powerful.

    So I would end with this, if I were hypothetically a startup, let’s say making high-end motorcycles (requires a lot of engineering, but not many people), I would choose some private cloud licenses of 3DX. That way, I don’t find that I need another product later on I didn’t factor into my budget (such as Star CCM+ for NX). And my employees could do crunch work from home with the 3DX browser if they needed, just a thought.

    I’d love to know what you think.

  • beyondplm

    I found your analysis interesting. It clearly shows Design vs cPDM tools separation and you mostly focused on 3D CAD, simulation and sketching in your analysis. You mentioned ENOVIA PDM usage as an issue and it tracks back to decision Daimler made in the past. You didn’t mention cPDM functionality (which most of people traditionally call PLM) and essentially it is about Windchill vs Teamcenter vs ENOVIA.

  • Beau Walsh

    Hmm, you certainly have a more holistic view of the topic, and that offers me new perspective. So, discounting the specific capabilities of various 3D software, can the 3DX platform be used within the existing cPDM environment. Let’s go back to the Mercedes dilemma in 2010 (you were quick to pick up on my reference); Mercedes was concerned with running two PDM systems at once, hypothetically it would double costs on that end. Is it possible for 3DX to tether with Teamcenter or Windchill, so that Enovia doesn’t need to be managed within 3DX?

    I suppose that’s a fairly specific question. For startups at least, that wouldn’t be a problem, as there would be no existing system in place, so adopting Enovia would be both convenient and prudent given its integration with 3DX. Speaking of which, DS seems particularly interested in startups and small enterprises at the moment, even if only for marketing purposes.

    I think two things DS has missed are multi-platform support and wider distribution of the 3DX platform to educators and individuals. We’ve already seen progress with the former, Linux has support for server hosting. But there’s no telling if 3DX will be open to less professional communities in the future.

    Anyways, given the rapid pace of the industry, I can’t wait to see the offerings of all the PLM companies in 10 years, a lot has happened in the last. Thanks for your time.

  • beyondplm

    You’re looking in the right direction by trying to understand how to run 3DX (CATIA and other brands) without ENOVIA. Check more information about version of CATIA V5-6R2017. At least according to this blog (http://www.intrinsys.com/blog/2017/catia-v5-6r2017-is-here), it is CATIA V5 that can run on top of 3DX 2017x version. It is not an answer on your question, but can give you some additional data points to research about.

  • Beau Walsh

    You could run 3DX and Catia V5 together, sure, I hadn’t thought of that. The backwards compatibility could act as a way to transfer V6 data over to V5 so that you could maintain an existing PDM and translators for V5 to other softwares.

    The only problem I see with that is the 3DX platform is set to replace V5 software within the coming years. I believe Catia V5 replaced Catia V4 in 1998, but V4 was supported until 2004.

    Either way, Catia V5 still has a few years. I personally speculate that DS isn’t confident enough with 3DX to replace V5, even if all of their existing customers already adopted the platform. If you recall, Land Rover had an iPLM project centered around 3DX, and so far it has been troublesome, because they’re still codependent on V5.

  • beyondplm

    I’d expect DS to support V5 as long as needed for all customers to move to V6, which might take years. Maintenance $$$ will cover it.