Why Engineers Don’t Like Company Private Social Networks?

by Oleg on July 22, 2012 · 15 comments

Couple of weeks ago, I discussed the potential of Yammer / Microsoft bundle to influence PLM field – Will Microsoft-Yammer kill Social PLM… Not yet. Actually, it seems to me Yammer indeed created some influence on what startups in PLM field are doing. Vuuch, last announcement introduces the ability to create company discussion groups.

In a nutshell, it looks exactly like Yammer idea. The employees of any company can register with their company emails and get an access to discussions inside of the same domain. Here is the link to a short video I found in the email from Vuuch:

Social PLM attempts

In my view, Vuuch is one of the leaders in trying to apply “social-networking” ideas in product development and enterprise. I can see similar attempts coming from large vendors too. The videos below show Dassault 3DSwYm and Windchill SocialLink experimenting with the idea of communities for product development.

Can we ask engineers to behave in a social way?

When you speak about communities, the adoption is a key. Yammer claimed 5 million users and 85% of Fortune 500 companies are using Yammer. Here is the link on Yammer’s Crunch base profile :

With a Freemium model, Yammer enables employees to voluntarily adopt the service. A premium version is available to paying customers and includes additional administrative and security controls, integration with other applications, priority customer service, and a dedicated customer success manager. More than 5 million users, including employees from 85 percent of the Fortune 500, have adopted Yammer’s Software-as-a-Service solution.

I wasn’t able to find numbers related to user adoption of social PLM tools. Are you aware about successful implementation of private social communities in product development and manufacturing? I wanted to raise a provoking question – what is wrong with social PLM communities? Is it about not attractive content, user experience, absence of interest and/or need?

Recently, GrabCAD raised quite many splashes in the engineering space – 250,000 engineers, 45,000 CAD models and 3M downloads. However, GrabCAD is not in the business of private communities for product development. Taking into account their latest announcement, I have to say “not yet”. Another interesting example of community building is Local Motors – the place for people (engineers included) to create influencing vehicles together.

What is my conclusion? I think, PLM companies are missing some points in the space of social networking for enterprise. Here is my list of suspects – complicated user experience created by social PLM pioneers, anti-social engineering nature, engineer’s focus on “cool stuff” and ignorance of corporate oriented tools. These are just my guesses and thoughts… I’m interested in your opinion. Speak your mind…

Best, Oleg

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  • Jim Mckinney

    Oleg,

    Thanks for this excellent questions. 

    In my view, most engineers in PLM organizations do not use social media tools of any kind today. They still use email 99% of the time. They may have a profile on Linkedin that they look at once in a while, but they do not use social networks on a daily basis. Few of them use Facebook in any consistent way, and even fewer know, use, or even appreciate what in the world you would do with Twitter.

    This means that they are not very interested in an internal tool for social media. They consider that email, and maybe a basic chat tool is good enough. They do not consider the content they create for anyone other than themselves, and are not use to sharing much of anything unless coerced.

    This is changing, as new engineers are hired who understand the power of social tools to support extensive collaboration on company projects. But, today most engineers do not see the value. Most managers in PLM organizations do not see the value either, and so it goes.

    This has been my experience. When I teach people in my PLM certificate classes about social media, and I tell them that email is going away, and I show them the tools that are available, most of the time I get blank stares and puzzled looks. I think this will change in the future, but the majority of the people running the show are still stuck in email (heck, some of them just learned how to use email properly a few years ago, they are not yet ready to adopt a new platform for communicating).

    -Jim

  • kaheniem

    Social Media as a concept is not limited to chat & discussions as Yammer presents them. I know that many finnish manu-companies for example use wiki-platforms as an internal documentation tool (quality handbooks, personnel guides etc..). If the user experience is nice and (now comes the keyword) THE CONTENT is interesting & important user adoption will be high.

  • Jens Krueger

    I would consider Enterprise Social Software (ESS) a basic application for communication & collaboration for the whole enterprise. It is not useful if it's application is restricted to engineering, because you want followers from purchasing, quality management, sales etc.. In consequence, these tools should be part of the basic desktop – not part of CAD / PLM. Of course, they should be integrated with PLM, so that you can post new CAD models, follow projects or link a discussion to a specification object.

    The profile management function is critical in terms of skill management and being able to find experts. Again, this profile management is so fundamental that I would consider it as a responsibility of HR – not of CAD / PLM.

    Best regards,
    Jens

  • Jim Mckinney

    You just hit the nail on the head: CONTENT! Without valuable content, there is nothing worth sharing with the “whole enterprise”. That is why a large part of the focus is on the engineering adoption of social PLM platforms. If they are unwilling, or unable, to share their content, then the value for the entire enterprise is much lower…time will tell.

    -Jim

  • beyondplm

    Jim, thanks for sharing your experience! Mine was the same – email rocks and most of the engineers don't lie the idea to share the information. What for? – this is the most typical changes. New gen will probably fix it, but the majority of engineering / manufacturing people are not there (yet). Best, Oleg

  • beyondplm

    Jens, thanks for your insight! So, how these (ESS) tools are different from existing “collaboration” tools? Is it just about buzzwords? Is it about user experience that ESS needs to take from Facebook? What i your take? Thanks, Oleg

  • beyondplm

    Thanks for the comment! Yes, content is VERY important, in my view. -Oleg

  • David Blair

    Oleg,
    I like your post and your focus on this new paradigm for engineers (i.e. using social computing concepts for better communication and collaboration in engineering).  Many of these concepts are new and we have to realize there is a learning curve.  When I first started talking about Social Product Development a few years ago, CIO and Engineering Managers would say “that Facebook stuff is for my kids (or grandchildren)”  However, nowadays, they are realizing this change in communication is coming.  They walk into meetings with iPads and mobile devices and realize that their children, who don’t even use PC’s (some of them) and grew up with social software, are coming into the workforce.  They now want to get behind these concepts. 

    As far as engineers not being social, I don’t buy that.  Everyone one has a personality and want to express themselves.  These new tools allow some introverts the ability to engage because they can do it from a computer (rather than in person).  In our distributed work places, having an online identity gives people the ability to create a name for themselves (to share info, show their expertise, etc.)  These tools allow people to connect in ways that were not possible before.

    As with all technology, the UX needs to be frictionless and easy to understand.  That is why we see many paradigms that people are familiar with in their personal lives (i.e. the Facebook activity feed) appearing in these Social PLM tools.

    Just a few comments I thought I would share.  By the way, the posts you make are helping to establish this space.  Thanks for that.

  • Garrick Ballantine

    I've worked for both PLM and Social software companies. The bottom line is that social needs to be integrated as part of one's normal operating rhythm in order to help drive user adoption. You have to be able to link it with a real business process and/or problem for there to be value. The problem with many social tools today is that they just offer another activity stream or website you have to go to in order to join the conversation, post content, or search for content instead of actually getting work done. Most engineers I know don't have the time to go “socialize” because they are under a lot of pressure. I don't believe email is going anywhere at least for a while but I do believe that social platforms will continue to mature and add more value…they just aren't quite there yet!

  • beyondplm

    Garrick, thanks for the comment! I agree- to have a single stream of information is important. Without that, real adoption will be problematic. Today, email is a single thread for most of the companies and systems. Whatever happens outside is just “nice to have”. Just my thoughts… Oleg

  • Tartanski

    Hi all, 

    I think 'culture' has a lot to do with it, my experiences show that in Europe where there is a high level of engineering know how (for ships planes and cars) engineers don't want o share too much as there is a bit of  protectionism going on. Engineers here like to be the go to person and like being the holder of important information.  Whereas Korean engineers have been working very collaboratively since day one, using netsend, and all the utilities of the technology at the time to instant chat and share things with each other. And as a result if you were to survey Korean engineers you would find that more than 80% of them (as a conservative estimate) use Social networking in their private lives and at work in one way or another. There are many factors contributing to this but I have observed that problems get solved in a different way in large Korean engineering companies, and I am pretty sure that has something to do with their ability to work well together. 

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  • beyondplm

    Tartanski, Thanks for your comment and insight! I think “culture” is exactly what defines the ability of people to interact and share information in social systems. Engineers are more likely to be on the side of “keep information close to their chest”, rather than share it using Facebook approach. Best, Oleg

  • Al Bunshaft

    Good discussion. You've touched on cultural, but not enough I think on generational. My son is studying engineering. He and his peers use social tools as second nature. They organize themselves, communicate and share information naturally with Facebook, Twitter, live voice chat, Skype, etc. As they enter the workplace won't they expect these tools to be there?

    The comments are correct, those in charge today generally don't use, and therefore don't understand, these modalities. So to me the question is not if, but when these things will begin to pervade the working environment!

  • beyondplm

    Al, 

    thanks for commenting! Yes, you are absolutely right! Generation makes difference. Social net is “second nature” for many Gen-Y. However, it is different for old gen of people. However, to me it says that the pace of social software will be different inside manufacturing companies. You might be interested to read one of my earlier posts about social software reflecting discussions during COFES 2012 – Social Software and GenZ: http://beyondplm.com/2012/04/1…, Oleg

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